This a blog for Mr. James Cook's eleventh grade honors English class at Gloucester (MA) High School. Remember what Northrup Frye writes in _Fearful Symmetry_, "No one can begin to think straight unless [she or] he has a passionate desire to think and an intense joy in thinking."

Friday, April 13, 2007

fortune and fate

fortune and fate: 1.1.145, 1.4.35, 1.4.91, 2.2.247-260, 2.2.518, 2.2.536,

3 comments:

Rob Alves said...

Fortune and Fate

1.1.145
“If though art privy to thy country’s fate,
Which happily foreknowing may avoid,
O, speak!”

1.4.35
“The form of plausive manners—that these men,
Carrying, I say, the stamp of one defect,
Being nature’s livery or fortune’s star,
His virtues else, be they as pure as grace,
As infinitive as man may undergo.”

In the first quote, found in act 1, scene 1, Horatio has just seen the ghost. It is Horatio who is speaking and he is speaking to the ghost. A ghost, who takes the appearance and apparel of King Hamlet when he was going into battle, has appeared nights before to the guards. The ghost has now returned and Horatio is trying to see what the ghost may want. Horatio asks the ghost if it has a voice, if there is anything the ghost wants from Horatio himself, and then he asked the ghost if he knows what destiny waits him in the state of Denmark. When Horatio says, “country’s fate”, he is either referring to his own fate in Denmark or Denmark as a whole’s destiny. The motif of fate or fortune that Horatio shows that the characters themselves are involved in trying to get the reader to better understands the play. Shakespeare is having Horatio ask the ghost about the fate of the country and what he must do, to try to get the audience information. When the ghost does not answer Horatio, the audience begins to think of why and what significance Horatio’s words hold. They hold a major significance because the ghost of Hamlet’s father, King Hamlet, answers the questions asked by Horatio, to Hamlet. It is as if Horatio foreshadowed the questions that went along with the answers that the ghost gives to Hamlet.
What is the true fate of the country?

In the second quotation, found in act 1, scene 4, Hamlet is having a discussion with Horatio on the customs marriage. They are having this discussion because Horatio has asked Hamlet about the customs before marriage in the state. Hamlet begins talking about men, specifically Claudius, because Hamlet wants to know if the king is following custom when he is doing so much celebration before his and Gertrude’s wedding. Hamlet begins to talk about how he finds this custom to only be good to those at the celebration. He feels others who look upon the celebration look at the people of Denmark to be drunkards. Hamlet feels that the more Claudius drinks his wine with his people, the more others will think bad thoughts upon the country. When Hamlet says "fortune's star", he is saying referring to something determined by luck, as if by accident of a habit. He is saying that the habits of these men are either marked by nature or by luck. Hamlet is referring to the fact that these men do what they do because they were born to or because it has become a habit in their life style. He is saying that either way, the corruption they perform will take a look of evil.
Why does Hamlet call something determined by luck, a "fortune's star?"

brittany said...

3.4line 39
"thou wretched, rash,intruding fool,farewell.I took thee for thy better, take thy fortune. thou find'st to be too busy is some danger".

1. During reading this scene i thought that if you are messing in everybodies business and trying to hide behind a curtain then you may get what is coming to you.

"My fate cries out
And makes each petty artire in this body
As hardy as the Nemean lion's nerve.
[Ghost beckons.]
Still am I call'd. Unhand me, gentlemen.
By heaven, I'll make a ghost of him that lets me!-
I say, away!- Go on. I'll follow thee. "
2. The ghost wants to tell Hamlet his fate. he wants to speak with hamlet alone. the fate of Hamlet is known to the ghost

brittany said...

"To be, or not to be: that is the question: / Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer / The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, / Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, / And by opposing end them?" (3.1.55-59).
This quote suggests that random fortune is painful and hard to deal with for many. This quote shows the fortune for many characters, including hamlet. it also reveals that hamlet has alot to do with the fate of other characters within besides just himself.
act 4.4 page 203
"to all that fortune, death and danger dare, even for an eggshell.
In this quote Hamlet is saying that when fortune death and danger are mixed together something bad is most likely going to happen. He says even for an eggshell to prove that this can happen to even simplest things in life. Fortune, death and danger in life all tie in together in this story.